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Potential Red Sox Trading Partners on Jacoby Ellsbury

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This is a big off-season for Jacoby Ellsbury and the Boston Red Sox.

Ellsbury is in the 2014 free agent class.

His agent Scott Boras typically takes his clients to free agency, rather than re-signing with a player’s team before hitting the market.

Either way – early signing or free agency – expect Ellsbury to cost a lot of money.

Boras calls him a “franchise player.” And he knows Boston has a history of committing big bucks ($20 million/year) to speedy outfielders (see: Carl Crawford).

And changes in free agent compensation rules complicate the decision process – with no draft pick compensation for teams that acquire players in walk-years during the season.

That means teams are less likely to pay big for free agents to be – during a season – because they get no compensation. So Ellsbury – theoretically – should have higher trade value before the 2013 starts.

So if you are Red Sox GM Ben Cherington – what do you do?

  • Who is Ellsbury? The MVP caliber player of 2011 or a player who has been injured for a bunch of the season in two out of the last three years?
  • Do you try to sign Ellsbury this off-season – knowing (if successful) you are looking at something like $20 million/year for seven years (Crawford money – thanks, Theo)?
  • Is Ellsbury worth that amount of money – even if Boras changes his typical approach?
  • Do you explore the trade market for Ellsbury – figuring his trade value only drops once the 2013 season begins?
  • Or does Boston figure outfield prospect Jackie Bradley is on his way to Fenway and ride out next season with Ellsbury – and make a decision on Ellsbury’s long-term future after the 2013 season, partly based on whether Bradley is ready?

It Gets More Complicated

The outfield market is crowded.

Free agents to be include: Josh Hamilton (can play CF), Michael Bourn, B.J. Upton and Shane Victorino. And maybe Curtis Granderson.

All centerfielders who are available for draft picks not quality players.

Add to the outfield market that Arizona may look to trade Justin Upton. Not a centerfielder but another high-quality outfielder who could be on the market.

So, let’s look at teams that may be interested in Ellsbury.

Ellsbury Trade Targets

  • Seattle. Their offense stinks. They have pitching and young players on the way – all good trade fodder. Ellsbury is from the Pacific Northwest – so maybe they can keep him (and they have money to spend).
  • San Francisco. Angel Pagan and Melky Cabrera are on their way to free agency. How about Ellsbury for Hunter Pence (no arm – just like Ellsbury)? The big outfield in San Francisco fits Ellsbury. Both players are free agents after the 2013 season but maybe Pence is more signable.
  • Texas. Hamilton may be on his way out as a free agent with the Rangers. How about Ellsbury for Elvis Andrus – freeing a spot for super SS prospect Jurickson Profar? Boston would probably need to add more given Ellsbury’s status, but worth exploring.
  • Washington. They need a centerfielder. If the Nats keep Adam LaRocheMichael Morse could be available, which could be the start of an Ellsbury deal.
  • Miami. Who knows what’s going on with the Marlins? They need a centerfielder. Suppose they combined a starter (to shed salary) like Mark Buehrle and a stud prospect like Christian Yelich (unlikely – but worth exploring) with Boston adding another young player. That may be a deal.

What would you do with Ellsbury – Sign him? Trade him?

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  1. What do you realistically see us getting for ellsbury? I would love to see the mariners in the trade, they have great pieces. (Walker, Hultzun, franklin, paxton). What if we moved both ellsbury and lester to the mariners? They are both from oregan.

    Harrison Potrzeba

    October 8, 2012 at 10:58 am

    • Ellsbury is at the low end of his trade value. You’re not going to be able to pry any of the Mariners young pitchers away. You might be able to get an established pitcher like Jason Vargas.

      David B

      October 12, 2012 at 3:52 pm

      • I like Vargas – I am curious – any thoughts on how his stuff would translate when he doesn’t pitch half his guys in a pitcher friendly home ballpark?

        Albie Jarvis

        October 13, 2012 at 2:30 am

    • Seattle – like Boston – is building – so I don’t see them trading top prospects for Ellsbury. Adding Lester to picture will create greater interest. But you need to remember – that immediately creates a hole in the Red Sox top 3 starters (and they are probably already looking for 1 top 3 starter). I see Boston looking to acquire pitching as the off-season priority.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:36 am

    • Im pitching Ellsbury and Daniel Bard to Philly for Cliff Lee. This could be our only access to an Ace for the next couple of years. Philly needs a rental CF til 2014. And they desperately need salary relief.

      Chris C

      October 13, 2012 at 9:06 am

      • The Red Sox definitely have the salary space to do this. Guess it comes down to this: Do you see the Red Sox contending or building in 2013? And maybe in 2014. If Boston feels it will have the horses to get back in the hunt – this would be a really good move. Thanks for your comment.

        Albie Jarvis

        October 13, 2012 at 11:30 am

  2. In the Red Sox dreams, Ellsbury & Lester start a trade discussion for King Felix. More realistically, a deal needs to revolve around other Seattle pitching – because they don’t have any hitting. So Boston needs to consider if including Lester is just a lateral move for the team. Thanks for your comment.

    Albie Jarvis

    October 8, 2012 at 11:13 am

    • So what would ellsbury fetch us? Walker straight up?

      Harrison Potrzeba

      October 8, 2012 at 1:15 pm

      • No. One year of an oft-injured OF for a top three pitching prospect? Aim lower.

        ryan hoffmann

        October 12, 2012 at 5:07 pm

      • Agree – don’t see a team swapping a top pitching prospect for Ellsbury – one on one. Thanks for your comment.

        Albie Jarvis

        October 13, 2012 at 2:12 am

  3. Good question. Walker or Hultzen may be “too much” in Seattle’s eyes unless they have some signal from Ellsbury that he will sign there. Seattle is like Boston – they are building. A one year rental doesn’t do a last place team any good. So expect players below top-tier prospects in return. Ellsbury will fetch more from a contending team that sees him as a missing piece – unless Ellsbury commits to sign early.

    Albie Jarvis

    October 8, 2012 at 1:24 pm

  4. Ok. How bout Logan Morrison and Buehrle for Ellsbury and Kalish?

    • Interesting idea. I see Buehrle as a Red Sox target – a player who is a salary dump but still contributes at a pretty high level. Not too high on Morrison. But overall the deal is in the right direction from a Boston perspective. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:32 am

  5. Nats make some sense. Anthony Rendon would be a great centerpiece to a deal we could move him to LF. They also have another Sox favorite in Alex Meyer. Morse an Rendon for Ells an a lesser prospect.

    Mariners may do Hultzen or Walker in a deal for Ells. More confident in Hultzen. We could then flip Hultzen to the Royals for Wil Myers who could then be a middle of the order bat that we desperetly need. Bradly jr isnt far away from the majors 2014 is realistic if not some time in the middle or end of 2013. This years FA market is strong with CF’s. We could find a good replacement for Ellls. Melky Cabreara is who I would go after because we could get him on a 1 year deal an cheap.

    Brent

    October 12, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    • I like the Washington deal – although Rendon is very similar to Ellsbury, in that neither player seems to be able to stay healthy. Adding Myers to the Red Sox lineup would be a big plus. And I like Cabrera as a short term Ellsbury replacement. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:29 am

  6. If Boston offered Lester and Ellsbury….hmmmm. I could see Mariners offering up Hultzen/Gutierez/Ackley type of deal

    david206

    October 12, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    • That’s an interesting deal. Hultzen is a top knotch pitching prospect. Gutierrez has trouble staying on the field (like Ellsbury). I wonder if Seattle has soured some on Ackley based on his season (he may need to shift positions). Thanks.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 11:40 am

  7. The Giants would be crazy to trade Pence for Ellsbury. He’s injured constantly and is not an impact player…

    Eric Bohl

    October 12, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    • I agree – how GMs value Ellsbury in any deal will be really interesting. Will most see him as an injury prone player like you do? Or will some see the 2011 production levels as something he can deliver going forward? Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:24 am

  8. I am from Seattle I like that alot maybe throw in a Trayvon Robinson or Casper Wells. Ackley/Hulzen/Guti/Trayvon or Wells. Done deal!

    david206

    October 12, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    • I like it – but have heard from another Seattle fan that they won’t be interested in a one year rental like Ellsbury. I agree with that point – Seattle would probably want some understanding Ellsbury will stick around before dealing top prospects. I agree the Mariners could see value in adding Lester. Thanks for your comments.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:21 am

  9. Boston should follow what the Mets did with Carlos Beltran.

    Keep him until July, then ship him to a contending team in need of a bat for a premium prospect. Also agree to pay the remainder of Ellsbury’s salary.

    Mets got a great prospect (Zack Wheeler). Boston might get more if Ellsbury performs well.

    Bob

    October 12, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    • I like the thinking. Only thing is baseball adopted new rules going into effect next season, where free agents to be who are traded during their walk year don’t generate compensation for their new team. I have read that means guys dealt during the season will probably bring a lower return than Beltran did two seasons ago. Plus, that deal didn’t exactly work out for SF. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:19 am

      • Actually Beltran had a clause in his contract that his team couldn’t offer him arbitration that year anyways. So the Giants knew before trading for Beltran they wouldn’t receive any compensatory draft picks. So at least one GM isn’t afraid to trade a top prospect for a pure 2-3 month rental.

        Bob

        October 13, 2012 at 3:24 am

  10. I think the phils would gladly take him and we have a crap load of pitching in the minors they can have

    Andrew heller

    October 12, 2012 at 4:54 pm

    • Phillies is a good target – dealing Victorino and Pence certainly created some holes in their outfield. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:16 am

  11. Andrus for Ellsbury straight up is a fantasy. Andrus is 23, significantly cheaper and isn’t a rental like Ellsbury might be. Think more like Mike Olt, Leonys Martin, and or Ian Kinsler. I think Ellsbury is 28, coming off injury, and didn’t play particularly well down the stretch. See this from a non-beaneater point of view, and his value isn’t nearly as high. Potentially a really good, but not elite player. Andrus is an elite caliber player.

    Lindsey

    October 12, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    • Thanks for your comment. Didn’t write “straight up” on an Andrus/Ellsbury deal. Said Boston would probably need to add more. I do agree with you that Texas is more likely to deal prospects for Ellsbury. Don’t know much about Olt – but I like his numbers. Do you him as a potential starting first baseman?

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:15 am

  12. why not Cincinnati too??? Reds need a legit leadoff hitter till Billy Hamilton is so-called ready!

    jim m.

    October 12, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    • Good point – Cincinnati is a logical potential landing spot for Ellsbury. They fit the profile – contending team that is a player or two away for advancing farther in the playoffs. And Stubbs is not cutting it in center. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:11 am

      • Ellsbury for Mesoraco

        Jimmer

        October 16, 2012 at 12:27 pm

      • Interesting – but is that enough for Ellsbury? Thanks for your comment.

        Albie Jarvis

        October 16, 2012 at 8:54 pm

  13. Seattle would have little interest in a centerfielder who has missed most of two recent seasons and who becomes a free agent at the end of the 2013 season at age 30 with Scott Boras as his agent.

    The young Seattle hitters don’t “stink” … Safeco Field merely suppresses their hitting numbers. On the road, the Mariners were fifth in the league in runs scored, posting a .247/.300/.403/.703 line. In contrast, the Red Sox were last in the league in runs scored on the road, posting a .242/.295/.376/.671 line. Ellsbury might be no better than a .265/.310/.380/.690 hitter playing half his games at Safeco Field (although the moving-in of the Safeco fences could help him improve on the .271/.313/.370/.682 line Ellsbury posted overall this year).

    John Sickels’ recently released preliminary prospect rankings had three Seatte prospects among the top 25 hitting prospects and another three among that top 25 pitching prospects (with a fourth pitcher, 17-year-old Victor Sanchez, ranked No. 44). I can’t imagine the Mariners would trade any of those seven prospects for one year of a risky 29-year-old outfielder.

    Franklin Douglas

    October 12, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    • Good points. Seattle is building and they probably wouldn’t sacrifice top prospects for a one year rental player. Numbers and ballpark aside – I don’t see anyone in Seattle’s outfield who rates as an above average hitter. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:08 am

      • Thanks for the response. I don’t doubt the Mariners will look to upgrade the outfield, but I would note that this season Michael Saunders, Franklin Gutierrez and Casper Wells posted OPS+ of 110, 107 and 99, respectively. Jacoby Ellsbury has a career OPS+ of 106 after posting a 2012 OPS+ of 83 that was in line with his pre-2011 career OPS+.

        Franklin Douglas

        October 13, 2012 at 8:16 pm

  14. How about one year of 29-year-old centerfielder Jacoby Ellsbury at about $10 million for one year of 28-year-old starter Tim Lincecum at $22 million?

    Each is coming off a down year, but the trade would address specific needs of each team. The Red Sox now have the financial flexibility, but would probably want the money to even out.

    Franklin Douglas

    October 12, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    • That may be the type of deal that works for both teams. I didn’t see Lincecum enough during the season to answer: Is he a top 3 starter in a rotation? What do you think? If Boston did that move – I would go after Melky Cabrera as an Ellsbury replacement until Bradley is ready. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:04 am

  15. I would attempt a Ellsbury, Lester and a mid level prospect to the Giants for Lincecum and Pence. Then they could sign a one year center fielder until Bradley is ready in 2014.

    RedSox63

    Steve Silva

    October 12, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    • That’s interesting – are you ranking Lincecum ahead of Lester, in terms of value? Boston’s top need is a number one starter. I am not sure Lincecum merits that designation going into next year. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 2:01 am

  16. The Red Sox should use Jacoby Ellsbury as leverage to set up a deal to get the best pitcher in baseball in Felix Hernandez, by including John Lester, Will Middlebrooks, Ryan Sweeney and Ryan Lavarnway. Don’t ever expect to pay for the best pitcher without having to sacrifice a part of our best players. This way the Mariners are sure to get very good hitters they need now and set-up their minor league prospects like Danny Hultzen, James Paxton and Taijuan Walker for 2013. As for the Red Sox they will replace Ellsbury by working out a free-agent contract around $120 million to get Josh Hamilton on a smart deal that would be a win-win situation for both sides of no more than six years (remember he will be 32 in 2013) including pull-out clauses (to protect the team and the player) during the first 3 years for both the Red Sox and/or the ballplayer. Once the Red Sox have Jackie Bradley ready they can move Hamilton to right field to replace Cody Ross who should re-sign this year for no more than a 3 year contract. With this we would be getting the ace that the Red Sox need to start in a strong way in 2013. They would be excelent with their starting rotation by including the rest of the present core of starters for 2013 and beyond. Also the outfield would be set-up pretty nicely with Daniel Nava, Ryan Kalish and Jerry Sands knowing that they have in the minors good outfield prospects such as Bryce Brentz and Brandon Jacobs besides Bradley. To replace Lavarnway we have in the minors Dan Butler and Mike Rivera to back-up Saltalamachia in catching while we continue preparing Christian Vazquez for the future. At third base is probably where we get hit hard the most by the departure of Middlebrooks, but for now we can hold the position with Mike Aviles, Pedro Ciriaco and ex Rookie of the Year 2010 candidate Danny Valencia who I’m personally a fan of. Bare in mind that in the minors we have a potential third baseman good hitting No. 1 prospect in Xander Bogaerts for the near future.
    With this team we should soon be very competitive in the American League East, if we are lucky to avoid the injuries that have killed us during these last three plus years…

    Joe

    October 12, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    • I am with you – if Seattle makes King Felix available, then Boston should go all-in to try trade for him. The number one player need for the Red Sox is a number one starter. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 1:58 am

    • Joe, giving ells, lavarnway, middle and others for king felix could be attractive but it would create 3 holes the redsox don’t have right now. GM would never want to plug a hole by creating another, not to say 3 holes like what you are proposing

      Winston

      October 13, 2012 at 11:53 am

      • I see more likely an arizona trade: ells for upton. Would love it the redsox can also get their hands on their 3 top pitching prospects: bauer, skaggs or bradley by adding some else to ells

        Winston

        October 13, 2012 at 11:56 am

      • Arizona is an interesting team – they have OF and P depth. What they need is a shortstop. Perhaps Aviles or Iglesias can be a match for the D’Backs. Thanks for your comments.

        Albie Jarvis

        October 13, 2012 at 12:30 pm

      • I agree the deal would create holes. But King Felix may be the type of player you are willing to create a few holes in order to grab. Thanks.

        Albie Jarvis

        October 13, 2012 at 12:31 pm

      • Hi Winston. Like Albie says, “King Felix may be the type of player you are willing to create a few holes in order to grab”. I honestly hope if the Red Sox are lucky enough to pull off a trade like I indicated above, he wouldn’t get infected with the tragic injury bug that has driven this team crazy at all the levels in the organization… Because, every pitcher including King Felix is a gamble, you really never know what will happen until once you have him pitching for you… Let me tell you something that I don’t want to extend myself explaining at this moment, but King Felix is at this moment the best pitcher in baseball and once he is given the opportunity to compete in a future playoff series you will see even greater things from him that has not been witnessed by baseball fans in these last 3 generations.This guy is something special! Believe me…
        In reference to the 3 holes that you mention after reading my suggestion, I wouldn’t really loose very much sleep on it, if we are lucky to get Felix Hernandez. If a deal for Josh Hamilton is not possible under the conditions that I’m indicating above, than your suggestion for Justin Upton sounds good to me. Personally I like and agree on Upton as a great option, but not in the trade that you’re suggesting by using Ellsbury, whom I feel would not make sense at this moment in the eyes of Arizona’s front office. The Red Sox have interesting prospects in the minors that could probably be of interest for them in the future, but to be honest with you right now I don’t think they even come close to what Arizona has developing in the minors. So unfortunately I don’t see a deal happening with Arizona for Upton for just our prospects. Moreover, if the Red Sox ever managed to deal with Seattle for the Sox’s players, whom could also may be of interest to Arizona such as Lester and Middlebrooks, they have to sacrifice in order to obtain King Felix.

        Joe

        October 14, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    • Seattle might not view Ryan Sweeney, Ryan Lavarnway and Will Middlebrooks as upgrades over the young hitters the Mariners already have in Kyle Seager, Michael Saunders, Jesus Montero, Dustin Ackley, Justin Smoak, Casper Wells, Nick Franklin, Mike Zunino, Brad Miller, Stefen Romero and others. Reports this week were that Felix Hernandez might well sign an extension with Seattle this offseason.

      Franklin Douglas

      October 13, 2012 at 8:24 pm

      • Like with all ball players, if injuries do not affect negatively Sweeney, Lavarnway and Middlebrooks I believe that Seattle would be very happy with these potential power hitters in a tentative deal for King Felix. Middlebrooks and Lavarnway, even after he had a bad year hitting in the majors, both are the “Real McCoy’s”, they sure both look like future All-Stars to most scouts and talent experts in the majors. As for Sweeney he’s a very good defensive player and a good hitter for average who will start hitting for power when everyone least expects him to do so. We just have to be patient …

        Joe

        October 14, 2012 at 2:12 pm

      • Will Middlebrooks is a high-strikeout, low-walk power hitter who made a brief appearance in in the Second 50 of Baseball America’s Top 100 prospect list. Ryan Lavarnway has never been listed in a Baseball America preseason Top 100 prospect list. I hope Middlebrooks and Lavarnway have successful MLB careers, but their prospect rankings pale in comparison to the current or past prospects rankings of most of the Mariner player listed. Few talent evaluators are convinced that both as “Real McCoys” and future All Stars.

        Franklin Douglas

        October 15, 2012 at 12:43 pm

      • Love Baseball America – been getting it since their first issue. But their rankings are good guides – not gospel. Middlebrooks has produced – albeit in a small sample – in the majors and looks like he will a good big leaguer. Agree on Lavarnway – not sure what the Sox have in him. Thanks for your comment.

        Albie Jarvis

        October 21, 2012 at 10:09 am

  17. reds trade phillips, leake and stubbs for pedroia, bard and ellsbury

    whoknew?

    October 12, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    • It would be a big leap for Boston to move Pedroia – think they see him as a foundational player. And he is signed to a reasonable contract. I do like Phillips. But if Boston trades Pedroia, they need to move him for a top pitcher – and I don’t see Leake in that mold. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 1:56 am

      • Albie, great article. Lot’s of reaction. Is king felix really off hands? They made significant progress in 2012 and they have 2 great prospects in hultzen and walker coming to their rotation. What they lack is offense and ells can help with that.

        Winston

        October 13, 2012 at 12:05 pm

      • Great question – Boston (and probably every contending team) will probably be asking Jack Z the same question in Seattle. If King Felix is available, expect an epic bidding war. Which would be fun for the trade rumor business. Thanks for your comment.

        Albie Jarvis

        October 13, 2012 at 12:28 pm

  18. Send Ellsbury to Arizona for Upton and then package a player or two with upton and ellsbury
    maybe: Ellsbury and Bard, for Upton and SP

    rich53442003@yahoo.com

    October 12, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    • Ellsbury+ for Upton+ would be a good swap for Boston – hope the Red Sox look into acquiring Upton. It will also be interesting to see if the Red Sox keep Bard – and if they don’t, what kind of trade value he has. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 1:53 am

  19. Please be realistic and put yourself in the place of the GM in Seattle: what do we need? and what are we realistically willing to give up?
    As a Sox fan I want a starting pitcher–who matches up for Seattle or someone else? I would like all Sox traded players to go to the AL West or the NL.
    I would trade any Sox major league pitchers and major league positional players to improve our team inc Pedroia. This could potentially be the fourth year without a playoff game win–to me no one is off limits.
    Pedroia could be a target for the Indians with Francona. I would take Kipnis, Masterson and Perez to solidify the closer role and expand the deal with Lavarnway, Kalish, Iglesias and a reliever for Santana and Choo.

    I would trade Ranaudo, Nava and Ellsbury for Lincecum and a prospect.

    MadMc44

    October 13, 2012 at 8:02 am

    • I agree – everyone on the current Red Sox should be on the table in trade consideration. That’s a lot of talent in moving in your Cleveland deal. My guess is Tito got Cleveland’s agreement they would add talent – not go young – as part of his manager agreement. That said, I like Kipnis alot. Also, a few people have recommended Boston go after Lincecum. I am going to look at him a little closer. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 11:37 am

  20. How about this Keep Ellsbury for one more year to see if Bradley can catch on(if not it’ll be the same thing next year keep him for high money or let him walk) and trade Iglesias For a pitcher, He hasn’t hit in the bigs and Pedro Ciriaco can handle short and supply a bat (Just look at those Yanks games)Make a trade for Josh Willingham to play LF. and protect Ortiz in lineup (after all we know what he did when Many left and before Gonzo). Have Ross in RF bring Podsednick back as 4th (after all we liked him so much we signed him twice) or give Bradley a shot at number 4(but remember the injury bug and Podsednick can play LF ,CF, RF).

    Ken

    October 13, 2012 at 8:51 am

    • I like Willingham and the Red Sox should check that out. I read yesterday that Arizona may move Jason Kubel because they have some young outfielders ready. Kubel has a very similar profile and is also worth exploring. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 11:32 am

  21. I am pretty sure the Red Sox go into 2013 with Ellsbury on the roster. His trade value is minimized by performance, age, durability and free agent status (not to mention Boras). He could be a nice chip to move at the deadline, or they can let him walk as a free agent and get draft pick compensation. Tough to trade him for anything of value this Winter. They should have done it after 2012 if that was the plan.

    Mitchell C.

    October 13, 2012 at 11:38 am

    • I agree – Ellsbury’s trade value is uncertain right now. Is he the player of 2011 or the guy who seems always to be hurt? How Ben Cherington plays the Ellsbury scenario out could have a major role on the Red Sox chances over the next couple of years. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 11:43 am

  22. it would be kinda like a us-iran deal, but ells for grandy would be a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnng burner on the hot stove

    Frank Cracolice

    October 13, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    • Like it – Anything to promote detente between superpowers! Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 13, 2012 at 1:56 pm

  23. Pedro Ciraco Felix Doubront and Jacoby Elsbury to the Braves for Sean Gilmartin Tyler Pastornicky Juan Fransisco and Tommy Hanson

    ncbravesfan82

    October 13, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    • If Bourn leaves via free agency, Atlanta will be looking for a center-fielder so they could be a good trading partner for the Red Sox. Hanson has some injury history and risk. But the Atlanta organization is deep in pitching so Hanson or someone else is probably on the Sox radar. Thanks for your trade idea.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 14, 2012 at 12:08 am

  24. Im confused…..is Ellsbury a potential superstar yet he doesn’t seem to rate a top prospect (from anybody) in return. I say trade him, but only if you get young talented prospects back.

    Larry

    October 13, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    • I think the combination of injury history and moving to his contract walk year raises questions about Ellsbury’s potential return in a trade. Your point is probably what Ben Cherington thinks – only deal him for a strong payback. Otherwise, let Ellsbury play and hope he rebuilds his trade value for a possible mid-season deal – even if it means you run the risk of losing him in free agency. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 14, 2012 at 12:04 am

  25. What about a trade for Tim Lincecum both are coming off of bad years and both are signed for 2013 Lincecum had a bad year and the giants are often looking for ways to aquire hitters and Boston is looking for pitching help

    Pat Nyen

    October 15, 2012 at 1:37 am

    • The blog has received a number of comments that Lincecum is a good match for Ellsbury – I say the Red Sox should explore it – the deal could be a good fit. Thanks for your comment.

      Albie Jarvis

      October 16, 2012 at 8:56 pm


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